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Old 10-28-09, 04:20 AM
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so i started pushing my Phenom 955 tonight. I'm likely to put about another 45minutes into it before i go to bed, its already 3am. This is my main system, that runs linux. this was a spur the moment thing, so i didn't really take time to put windows on a drive for a wider scope of benchmarks, so all i have is geekbench

but here's some preliminary scores. starting with my base score, with my custom kernel that already boosted me up about 1900 points from the stock kernel with my distro
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/175088

here's at 3.6ghz
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/179017

and here's 3.8ghz, seems stable so far, i'm trying to find my max speed right now before i start tweaking FSB
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view?179018

here's one at 3.9. i had it post at 4ghz, but it locked up during the benchmark, voltages didn't help me hold it. so i don't think it has 4 in it anywhere, but i could be wrong
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/179024
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Default Re: started pushing the phenom

So I ran this benchmark and scored and started browsing similiar scores. Considering that an OS has virtually no impact on your floating point or integer performance, no OS tweak should give you 1900 points. I started going through the result some looked off....like getting an extra 6000 points for running OS X on similiar hardware. Then I found this:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/160044

A Turion X2 2.1Ghz scored a 14k. This benchmark is a joke. You need to look for something that can accurately compare cross platform performance. At the very most, an OS may have an impact of a few percent on tasks that require driver optimizations (sound, video). CPU/memory scores should be pretty much even.
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Default Re: started pushing the phenom

its not the OS that gave me an extra 1900 points, however building my kernel to optimize and patch it for my system, still did have an impact on my score. but if you look at the different base scores i posted for the different kernels in detail, you'll see that the sngle threaded tests are all pretty much the same. where the difference lies is the multithreaded tests, which shows that the vanlla kernel wasn't quite taking advantage of the multiple cores quite right. honestly, one of the patches i added when i built the new kernel is what added the phenom achitecture support to the base kernel. for example, on my eee pc, when i built the kernel, i added smp support, which gives 2 more options, hyperthreading and multicore. i left them both in, which ended up causing me shutdown problems, because multicore was taking precedence over hyperthreading. so at shutdown, when it was trying to shut off a virtual core, it was treating it like a physical core, thus hanging the boot process. when i recompiled with HT only, that went away. so maybe something like that was afftecting my desktop as well in lowering my multithreaded performance

actually, if you look at my other thread from when i showed the first benchmarks with different kernels before even overclocking. i did explain a few things. one of the things i mentioned was the task scheduler, BFS (brain f###), and i've noticed a difference with it in the new optimized kernel i'm running. its alot simpler than the CFS (completely fair) scheduler in that it gives more priority to active processes than trying to share the load equally, the results change depending on system load and overall time it takes to run a task will change depending on system load as well. but since running the new kernel i've noticed my video encoding times have improved like 50~%, give or take depending on the number of passes and filters. but before for just a basic 2 pass with the old kernel, it would encode at around 22fps, just under real time. now i see 40~fps. and to me it makes sense that how an OS manages things can change the outcome of a benchmark to a degree because benchmarks run a test, and calculate scores by data passed within a timeframe, the less your tasks that are being juggled by your hardware, the more ressources are allowed for the benchmark to use within that time frame, in simple terms at least. all i'm saying, is that perhaps the way tasks are managed can have an impact. but i think the main thing making a difference for me without overclocking is the actual phenom architecture support, not to mention better SMP support like i mentioned above.

im not saying geekbench is accurrate, i've dfinitely seen a few tests that seem off, but im still curious. and one thing mentioned on their site somewhere with the last version was that they improved the scoring chart somewhat, they did say themselves that the old version wasn't. that score you posted definitely looks off though. which does leave doubt as far as comparing systems to each other. but its still a good reference point for seeing how different things scale on a single system in terms of performance. its still a benchmark though, and differs from real world performance. but like a said, not a bad baseline for tweaking a single system, definitely not for comparing. looking over my phenom scores though, multithreaded performance seems to scale well against the clock speeds though. i'm still curious what you scored though
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Default Re: started pushing the phenom

Well stlouis, just install Win7 on a partition or another hdd, and ran your benchmark suite on it.

Anyway, 3.9Ghz on Phenom II sounds great, mind sharing your voltage, HT bus speed, memory speed/voltages and temperatures?

I was contemplating to build a Phenom II PC for my sister, but the price are bit steep for now. I could add a hundred bucks or so to get Core i5
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Default Re: started pushing the phenom

well, memory was still stock. i was mainly OC'd using multiplier with fsb around 219, HT speed was over 2600, I don't remember the exact number. only voltage i adjust was chipset, which only went up 1 notch, i don't remember the number again. cpu was 1.5, it may have been able to do it on less. it was late when i started honestly, and i just cranked the voltage to the common safe high voltage number i could find doing a quick search. i gave up when i couldn't post anymore after pushing the FSB to 220.....i should have lowered the multiplier a notch, im sure the FSB would have gone up fine that way. but it was 4:00am, and i wanted to go to bed rather than crack my side panel off and clear CMOS
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